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 Post subject: Re: Haste and Monk
PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2007 8:36 pm 
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Ooooooooorly, I'm still in class. Leaving in 5 minutes, then probably napping. KRT this weekend, etc.

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 Post subject: Re: Haste and Monk
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shurynot, anything to actually be able to sub war outside of dynamis.

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 Post subject: Re: Haste and Monk
PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2007 9:09 pm 
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wot r u guys talking about :+:, ur mnk's jus engage and punch ^^

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 Post subject: Re: Haste and Monk
PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2007 9:10 pm 
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Let's just say there's a reason Kny and I kick ass ;o

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 Post subject: Re: Haste and Monk
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 Post subject: Re: Haste and Monk
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Kny we needs to KRT. I miss those pt's. I can drag Up to WHM. And we cud get BC or something for other MNK. Jus need to whore some RDM and BRD then ^^

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 Post subject: Re: Haste and Monk
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 Post subject: Re: Haste and Monk
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 Post subject: Re: Haste and Monk
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Aemora wrote:
Wot about

"Knyghtmayre misses Long-Bowed Chariot."

How many of these have you factored????????

Else, pwn. I'm still not convinced about Mnk tanking LBC though. I guess I need to be shown it in person.

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 Post subject: Re: Haste and Monk
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 Post subject: Re: Haste and Monk
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 Post subject: Re: Haste and Monk
PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 6:15 am 
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 Post subject: Re: Haste and Monk
PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 8:31 am 
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Indeed, but a thread worth necroing. This should be sticked rly, it's very informative. In fact, we should have more theorycraft on this board.

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 Post subject: Re: Haste and Monk
PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 1:11 pm 
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While thats true, its kinda wrong now

Haste doesn't cap at 50, its somewhere in the 80'sish which nothing but a 2h zerging drk can get

You'd really only have to redo the haste, and possibly accuracy, which would also be completely different again if the monk has usu feet/full usu. On a very short (Aprox 10k damage) LBC parse, Meka came out at 72% accuracy, I have no clue what food she was eating, but basically a top of the line monk without full usukane, my accuracy as a paladin was hitting 92%, so could have possibly been a fluke, or she could of had meat on.

Assuming 15% haste, 11% Victory march and 9% Advancing, plus a mixed-monks equip, you would have:

Turban, 5%
Bblelt 12%
Haidate 5%
usukane sune-ate 2%

24% haste from gear, 35 from spells, 59% total, if you're going double march, outside of that I'm not sure about a monks average damage per hit and ws damage on LBC, and I won't use Kny's because its been a long time since then, with lots of new shit added to the game.

Then take into account Hundred fists, plus the time you'd have 2houred March/Min (or march/march if you really need it). It is also hard to calculate how much you would be casting utsusemi, because with 2 monks, it could be a one sided fight, or somewhat equal. In either case, I'd have to be a monk to know how often they have to cast blinks.

On top of that, people who've been doing salvage for years sometimes find LBC to be very odd, some nights much easier than others with and without it being weakened and such, there posts quite often about this on bg it seems, and more so lbc than other chariots. There's so many different variables it would be kind of hard to calculate something like that, because of how much the run can vary, as can stats (half the time in bhaf you may not even end up getting dex, making your accuracy that much worse).

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 Post subject: Re: Haste and Monk
PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 3:18 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Haste and Monk
PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 9:52 pm 
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Spell haste caps at 50, Mrd. Melee haste caps around 70-80 (Hard to get an exact % on it, for me at least, I lax apps). I think I already mentioned that earlier in the thread tbh. It's not important, though, as its unnatainable for most jobs. The haste and damage reduc calculations are just as valid to day as they were then, since they're calculated with the same formulae.

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 Post subject: Re: Haste and Monk
PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 10:31 pm 
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Yeah, exactly my point, you can't calculate your damage per minute on lbc using a 50% haste cap, because your haste will be higher.

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keeping in mind that Haste caps at 50% total, you can figure out our damage per minute on LBC by factoring in our average damage per attack round.

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 Post subject: Re: Haste and Monk
PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 11:07 pm 
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Yeah, but I had already corrected that :)

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 Post subject: Re: Haste and Monk
PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 11:25 pm 
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I see

was too lazy to read the whole thread :>

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 Post subject: Re: Haste and Monk
PostPosted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 5:45 pm 
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Didn't you quit?

And Mnk tanking is so olde.

SO OLDE. Hell, MrD even tanks on his War from time-to-time. Better than a certain Samurai we once knew, anyway...

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