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 Post subject: Re: Haste and Monk
PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 4:45 am 
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 Post subject: Re: Haste and Monk
PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 9:27 am 
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I thot LBC charms @.@ Taru MNK would be deadly in pwnin your teammates

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 Post subject: Re: Haste and Monk
PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 12:39 pm 
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Ryuushin wrote:
I thot LBC charms @.@ Taru MNK would be deadly in pwnin your teammates


LBC is Bhaflau Boss, and uses Homing Missile.

LAC is Silver Seas Boss, and uses Brainjack, 4-person Charm and DoT for 90 seconds.

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 Post subject: Re: Haste and Monk
PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 1:01 pm 
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kny get with me on aim, you are missing something for the formula

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 Post subject: Re: Haste and Monk
PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 4:55 pm 
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wot? im at school atm but i cant think of anything that i left out D;


edit:
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i completely forgot about critical hit rate... lol

i'll have to look up that Neutral

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 Post subject: Re: Haste and Monk
PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 5:08 pm 
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Wut is this school you speak of?

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 Post subject: Re: Haste and Monk
PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 6:55 pm 
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nah not crits,


the way SE figures haste is as follows


using mine as an example

Excluding DW for simplicity sake.

402 delay weapons

X%5 hiadate
=xxx
X%5 turban
=xxx
X%3 fuma
=xxx
X%3 dusk
=xxx

it is a shitty way to do it, but try it with a recast some time.
only about 1-2 sec dfference but it is how they do it.
comes out to about 4-6 delay difference, kinda miniscule, but meh, it is something.

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 Post subject: Re: Haste and Monk
PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 7:26 pm 
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Are you trying to say that instead of a cumulative haste total:
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[baseDelay*(1.00-totalHaste%)]= adjDelay

It should be seperately additive?
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[baseDelay*(1.00-item1Haste%)*(1.00-item2Haste%)*(...)]= adjDelay


So for 10% haste from (Turban+Byakko's) instead of 348*(.90)=313.2D, it should be 348*(.95)*(.95)=314.1D?

I can see the marginal error between the 2, and I guess the recast is the only way to visibly distinguish between the two values.

I'd never even thought of that.. D;

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 Post subject: Re: Haste and Monk
PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 11:30 pm 
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yeah exactly.

If you have 3-4 pieces of haste gear for blm, it might be easier to test and get the most accurate results due to some spells with long recast(AM -gaIII) I have only had ni and ichi spells to work with.

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 Post subject: Re: Haste and Monk
PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2007 12:31 am 
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U can hit the 50% cap pretty easy on mnk tho. I have +22% in gear atm. With haste spell (+15%) that is +37%. And with a bard u can get Advancing march (Caps @ 9% with Fairie Picolo) & Victory March (caps @ 11% with Fairie Picolo).

So with just Victory March & haste, I wud have +48%. So if u took both march songs instead of march and minuet, u cud use Melee Hose, for the added 5% Kick Attacks, and still have capped haste of 50%. And talking bout kick attacks i need to merit tht shit out. But i wud liek to finish off samurai first tbh XD

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 Post subject: Re: Haste and Monk
PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2007 11:15 pm 
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Canadian moneh:

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and coins:

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i always found it retarded how we have 5 cent coins bigger than 10 cent coins... should be the other way around rly


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 Post subject: Re: Haste and Monk
PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2007 12:03 am 
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 Post subject: Re: Haste and Monk
PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2007 7:43 pm 
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You know, I heard how Canada got its name.

At the "capitol" they had a meeting to what tehy would name their glorious country. So, being from lolkanada they put the alphabet into a coonskin cap.

1st guy comes up and he pulls a C - he tells the guy "I got a C, eh"
2nd guy comes up and pulls a N - he tells the panel "I got a N, eh"
3rd guy comes up and pulls a D - he tells the officials "I got a D, eh"

C eh N eh D eh??? WTF!

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 Post subject: Re: Haste and Monk
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 Post subject: Re: Haste and Monk
PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2007 4:09 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Haste and Monk
PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2007 5:14 pm 
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Canadians are wierd...they put mooses on their moneh! And who are these peeps on the bills? I see the queen, but I don't know these other folks!

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 Post subject: Re: Haste and Monk
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lol..


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 Post subject: Re: Haste and Monk
PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2007 5:57 pm 
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Scorsese wrote:
Canadians are wierd...they put mooses on their moneh! And who are these peeps on the bills? I see the queen, but I don't know these other folks!


You know, a friend of mine went to Canada. He was talking to a dude in a bar up there about American money and Canadian money. The Canadian went on and on and on about how it's hard to distinguish between American currency (dollars) and that Canadians made it easier by color coating their bills. My friend paused and said "Most Americans just read the numbers on the bills."

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 Post subject: Re: Haste and Monk
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/sigh....

Praetor......leave my forums, and never come back, pls. :<

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 Post subject: Re: Haste and Monk
PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2007 6:25 pm 
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Praetor......leave my forums, and never come back, pls. :<


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