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Lolmy
 Post subject: Re: 6/5 Datamine results
PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 8:30 pm 
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Aemora wrote:
I'm considering overall betterness... Morrigan's is probably cheaper than what this Shadow set will turn out to be, it's the only Leg piece for Blm that gives you MP (Zenith is fucking retarded to nuke in), it's a little harder to acquire, yes, but it looks awesome. Considering that the rarity of a Valkyrie is going to be matched only by the synthers that create it, and the pricetag they will put on it, Morrigan's with the pricetag of 50k (if that) and 10,000 ISP seems a lot better, not to mention free entry into Salvage (This Einuoethowuegt being 180k, split perhaps... Perhaps not) (which you are given Hi-Pot tanks to enter with as well as re-raisers occasionally) ... To get the Valkyrie is just as common as it will be to get Zenith Mitts +1, and we all have them, don't we.

Morrigan's, at the end of the day, is simply easier to get, a fuck-ton cheaper, gives you some MP, the least Emnity but has a set bonus of added MAB when completed. Being as some JPs are now walking around with Morrigan's Pigaches (Mira...), then it is possible to complete the sets. Those fuckers just need to share thier wealth of knowledge with us.

Either way, these new Abjuration gear for mages sounds shitastic, apart from this one piece we are arguing over. Let's hope all Abjurations drop in Einahfihqeiphvqip so we can stop camping Kings. Prz.

But you fkrs will probably still be wanting Ridills. But Fafnir is fun - You can nuke Thunder on him with some Thunder-weather...

Also, update available to download now. GOGOGO!


KB will still be camped for his ring (I don't think people even honestly camp him for his abj's anymore... Faf for ridiiiiiiiiiiii like you mentioned. and aspid for... Sipar?)

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 Post subject: Re: 6/5 Datamine results
PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 8:30 pm 
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seems like taj's site went down =x

lol at stealing bandwidth...

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Lolmy
 Post subject: Re: 6/5 Datamine results
PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 8:33 pm 
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did BG go down cause of too many ppl too?

seems like KI down too

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 Post subject: Re: 6/5 Datamine results
PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 8:35 pm 
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bg was down about 1-2h before the update..

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 Post subject: Re: 6/5 Datamine results
PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 8:48 pm 
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Have any of you ever looked at the damage differential between Errant Hpl. and Igqira Weskit?

That's INT+10 Vs MAB+6 and Weskit blows Errant away by 30-40 damage.
Now you have the argument of INT+8 Vs MAB+5 and you can't tell which will be better?

Albeit it will be nearly impossible to HQ and even NQ will cost a fuckton of money for about 6 months, Valkyrie's will yield greater damage than any other legs other than Sorc. Tonban on appropriate day.

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Aemora
 Post subject: Re: 6/5 Datamine results
PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 8:56 pm 
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I'm arguing (INT+10, MP+25, Cost, How to acquire) vs (MAB+5, Cost, Depending on other people to HQ, How to acquire)

Morrigan > Valkyrie.

(In this case, '>' means "Greater than")

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Knyght
 Post subject: Re: 6/5 Datamine results
PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 8:57 pm 
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Total set stats for NQ Shadow wrote:
Magic Accuracy+34 Enmity-12
Physical damage taken +16%
Magic damage taken -3%
INT+5 MND+5 CHR+5 MP+35
"Magic Atk. Bonus"+4


The entire set minus the legs, garbage for BLM.

In other news

Gleeman's Cape wrote:
DEF:7 HP+20 MP-20 VIT-5 INT+5
Lv.70 WHM/BLM/RDM/BRD/SMN/BLU/PUP

1 moar INT!

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Ghil
 Post subject: Re: 6/5 Datamine results
PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 8:58 pm 
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i dont think that the price of the new cursed items will be extrem high so long they dont put only expansive materials in it! Most of the new items are einherjar exchange shit like the neck and back equip! i wonder how to get the salvage extra equip... its all rare/ex so it must be anything with AP or ISP so long they dont make them drop in salvage. Atm i just hope the polearm wont be that expansive to make lol _._
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Knyght
 Post subject: Re: 6/5 Datamine results
PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 8:59 pm 
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Who the hell incorporates practicality into their damage equations?

Valkyrie outperforms. Hand over your 2/3 of a Morrigan's robe now please, it's not nearly as practical to get as a 10k weskit off the AH.

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Daniel
 Post subject: Re: 6/5 Datamine results
PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 9:01 pm 
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Mrn. Tobe
DEF:39 HP+23 STR+5 Accuracy+15 Haste+3%
Automaton:
Enhances "Cure" potency
Max MP Boost
Lv.74 PUP

Mrn. Dastanas
DEF:17 CHR+7 Haste+1%
Enhances "Repair" effect
Enhances "Martial Arts" effect
Lv.73 PUP

JSE FOR ALL THE NEW JOBS?!
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Knyght
 Post subject: Re: 6/5 Datamine results
PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 9:02 pm 
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that actually looks more like... AF2... which isn't supposed to be put in yet.

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Lolmy
 Post subject: Re: 6/5 Datamine results
PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 9:02 pm 
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Knyght wrote:
Have any of you ever looked at the damage differential between Errant Hpl. and Igqira Weskit?

That's INT+10 Vs MAB+6 and Weskit blows Errant away by 30-40 damage.
Now you have the argument of INT+8 Vs MAB+5 and you can't tell which will be better?

Albeit it will be nearly impossible to HQ and even NQ will cost a fuckton of money for about 6 months, Valkyrie's will yield greater damage than any other legs other than Sorc. Tonban on appropriate day.



It will vary from mob to mob, but when I've done simple quick tests, 2INT~1MAB, almost identical, weskit usually does around 10-15 more than errant for me. All this arguing is moot though, we're arguing for an HQ abj peice which will most likely be impossible to get like you said vs. a salvage peice that probably takes ages to get as well, mahatma may not be the best but it sure as hell is the easiest to get.

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Daniel
 Post subject: Re: 6/5 Datamine results
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not rare/ex tho ;;

atleast what the dataminer claims
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Knyght
 Post subject: Re: 6/5 Datamine results
PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 9:05 pm 
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JSE are generally all pieces the same level.

Blessed is all 71.
Igqira is all 73.
Sha'ir is all 72.
Hachiman is all 70.

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Safersephx
 Post subject: Re: 6/5 Datamine results
PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 9:06 pm 
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ghil those rings with "Salvage:" come from assault appraisals, like the last set of rings introduced.. same with the sashes..

the 3-4 new sashes along with a couple of the capes will be purchasable from einherjar imo..

and the polearm will 99% be dropped from something relating to einherjar, as it is r/e

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Ghil
 Post subject: Re: 6/5 Datamine results
PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 9:09 pm 
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meh i just saw it that it is rare/ex -.- now i m pissed! and the new sword is rare/ex too D:
i bet it take ages to get it ;___;
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 Post subject: Re: 6/5 Datamine results
PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 9:10 pm 
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Daniel
 Post subject: Re: 6/5 Datamine results
PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 9:13 pm 
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Level Artifact
40 Turbo Animator
52 Puppetry Churidars
54 Puppetry Babouches
56 Puppetry Dastanas
58 Puppetry Tobe
60 Puppetry Taj

this means.. =/

Mrn. Tobe
DEF:39 HP+23 STR+5 Accuracy+15 Haste+3%
Automaton:
Enhances "Cure" potency
Max MP Boost
Lv.74 PUP

Mrn. Dastanas
DEF:17 CHR+7 Haste+1%
Enhances "Repair" effect
Enhances "Martial Arts" effect
Lv.73 PUP

that's so weird..
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Tyriac
 Post subject: Re: 6/5 Datamine results
PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 9:14 pm 
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oh wtg Saferer puttin all this stuff on forums making me read like 8 pages of oohs n arrrs and my fkn dinner went cold >.>

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 Post subject: Re: 6/5 Datamine results
PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 9:15 pm 
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any more of those being dug up DG?

they seem to match the order of the AF's too

lvl 56 piece > lv 73 piece
lv 58 piece > lv 74 piece


owtf i jus noticed the stats on that body piece.... thats really good >.>
might be some cruel joke someone is playing on pups lolz

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