So, Work Policies...

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So, Work Policies...

#1 Post by Aemora »

So, recently I died my hair Blue.

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This was Wednesday last week. Today is Saturday. 10 days later, it has faded somewhat (it's more duller and blends better into the black in dark lighting, but shines something crazy in extremely light places (like outside)). I dyed my hair when I was on holidays from work.

Tuesday, I go back to work. Lorraine, one of the duty managers, notices my hair (by staring at me for 10 seconds in disbelief before commenting, "that's a nice colour"). Work goes fine. Thursday I go into work and Duty phones for me straight away. I march over to the store (I work in a Tesco Petrol Station), and the first thing out of Fran's (another Duty Manager) mouth is, "The blue has to go".

We sit there for 10 minutes, whilst I argue idly asking why I have to dye my hair. Her reply is: "It's not of a natural hair colour." My immediate reply, of course, is "Well, I had red hair for 6 months and not one question was raised regarding that, and last time I checked, other than ginger people who sprout bright orange from their skulls, red isn't a natural colour." Fran brushed this comment aside, saying that red was more commonplace nowadays and more accepted than the blue I dyed mine. However it does not detract from the point that she made: The hair is not a natural hair colour.

So I ask her to tell me where Tesco's policy is on Dress Code, and how you should look when at work to clear this up. She goes off for 10 minutes, returns unable to find the book which 'every member of staff is given when they start employment with Tesco'. I laugh a smirky laugh, and tell her that unless she backs up her claims, I'm going to take the matter further with the Union, on charges of sexual discrimination (which, to be honest is a bit farfetched, but I did name off 6 girls who work in the store who have coloured hair (be it all over or part dyed (colours include Maroon, Bright Red and Purple) and are allowed to have it) unless she can provide me with written confirmation about what she is talking about.

She tells me that unless my hair is changed by my next working shift (today), then I would be sent home unpaid.

Today, I walked in with my head held high, found Fran and asked to speak to her. We went to a room. She says, "I see you've not changed you hair", and I said "No, because you've not shown me your evidence". We argued some more for 10 minutes before things got really irate, until she asked me finally "are you going to change it", and I said "No, because it's a waste of my money to get rid of a look I wanted and furthermore, you are singling me out amongst the plethora of staff who have their hair 'unnatural colours'", which I then pointed out that bleached blonde hair (which she has), isn't a natural colour. She storms off.

She comes back 10 minutes later, after phoning over the garage (my department), and tells me that she should suspend me because I'm refusing to follow the company's dress code, but won't because of 1 person in particular who I brought to her attention, and none of the duty managers are sure of her hair colour... The person who's name I brought up was Lizz, my girlfriend. They aren't suspending me because they aren't sure if my claims that my girlfriends' hair is "bright red". Ignoring 5 other people I mentioned who were working that very day, she picked the one person who wasn't in work at that moment in time on a whim to get her out of trouble. Of course, my mind starts racing thinking that because they disapprove of whatever we have together, a working relationship on the same department (which, we don't even work TOGETHER), is reason enough to seperate us.

So after 45 minutes of 'talking' to Fran, she tells me that instead of my next contracted working shift, I have 10 days to change my hair colour, at which point the entire argument is moot because in 10 days time, the colour would have faded even more, and the blonde which it will fade to will start coming through, and blonde and black are considered "Natural hair colours". It's complete bullshit.

But not only that, the chain of command she's gone through it completely wrong. For one, Lorraine (who is a complete bitch), should have gone to my manager instead of another, and got my manager to deal with the situation. However, my manager is off ill, so Fran did it. This is how it's been for the last 2 months, because Natalie (my manager) is off, everyone over the store has ignored the chain of command, and whenever 1 person has something to say about staffing over the garage, it comes from them all instead of us answering to 1 person. And I know, and they know for a fact that Natalie would do absolutely NOTHING about my hair, because she'd view it as a stupid arguement and would side with me.

So now I'm in the process of going through Union and writing letters to the higher people above my people, asking for them to be more precise about the code of dress regarding hair styles. Fran even when to a point where she claimed my hair was "not of a business-like manner", and actually motioned with her hands that my hair was all kinds of fucked up (scruffy, morning hair style with no shape or form), which further pissed me off.

So... Opinions, comments, etc..? What kind of "dress code" does your working place have? Answers on postcards people, I wanna know what the working world is like...
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#2 Post by M fkn G »

Punch the cunt in the throat and piss in her mouth as she gasps for air.



Then take it higher than your local managers.


Go right to the top if you have to.
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#4 Post by Tyriac »

firstly id like to say this kinda crap happens in schools boys cant have long hair, no tram lines, no "unnatural colours".
This isn't school and my argument regarding hair is this (goes for schools and work)

Whatever you do with your hair colour style or anything else does not affect your ability to work or learn.
Now obviously if you worked in a place that saw you working with high flammable items you shouldn't be wearing a bonce full of hairspray but apart from that I wouldn't be offended walking into any workplace regardless of hairstyles.

BTW my daughter has blue in her hair too and it looks nice
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#5 Post by Mrdude »

M fkn G wrote:Punch the cunt in the throat and piss in her mouth as she gasps for air.



this.

also, I quite like your blue hair ^^
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#6 Post by Darkwarrior »

i'm allowed to wear more or less anything to work as long as it involves pants + a shirt (i can wear the shirt however i want to, as long as it's on me)

the only thing restricted is we aren't allowed to have anything like rude tshirts undearth (like with swears or things of questionable content).

gotta love how slack it is and being able to see people come in what's almost a 2 suit with shirt + tie, yet still be wearing flip flops lol
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#7 Post by M fkn G »

In all honesty, I am all for the traditional dress attire in most workplaces. Say working as a cpa or some other boring office job... However for schools I think it is rediculous, school isn't just about knowledge but social learning too. How can people become productive members of a society if they are socially hampered by the school system that is supposed to teach them these skills? idk


If there is no said policy, do whatever you want. I still trust the guy in a collared shirt and slacks that is clean cut more than the other guys though :D
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#8 Post by leeramond »

work attire for many jobs has always been a principal which has eluded me. I understand that people who deal with the public as a part of their job have a responsibility to look presentable as they are a representative of their work place. As best i can tell you do look presentable so i find no problem. but i have a lot of friends who have jobs in offices where the only other people they see are the other people who work there and yet they have to wear a shirt and tie to work. WTF??? why so i can impress the people in accounts recievable with how bad ass my tie is, or more so with how i can get all dressed up and sit in uncomfortable clothes for 8 hours a day. The whole thing never seemed to make sense to me. any way file a grievance with your union against your boss then die your hair orange and say carrot top naturally has the same hair color.

WALL O TEXT!!!!
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#9 Post by Asta »

Im a chemist and chemists dont normally dress up, but where I work there was this one guy who always came in wearing a collared shirt and tie. We made fun of him for it.

Then one day a manager position opened up. Guess who got promoted? Thats right... guy with the tie.

A few years later a director position opened up. Guess who got promoted again? Thats right... same guy with the tie.

So now I wear a tie to work. :dunno: Rebel without a cause just doesn't pay that well.
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Tell that bitch be cool.
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#11 Post by Meka »

Keli and I had a convo about this last night, Cliff Notes version to follow:

We agree with Mg's & Asta's points, you want ahead (I'm quite positive you don't want to be a low rung all your life) dress for it.
HOWEVER
Your blue hair and attire, and general nod to hygiene is loads better than the greasy slacker grunge types working in our local station. There was one guy who dressed nicely (read: he was clean and in a company shirt) and he was recently promoted to manager over a store in a yuppie part of town (case in point)

Now, in my line o' work, I tell my employees that idc what they wear AS LONG AS they look professional. Keep in mind what you are doing (some ppl clean bedpans, hence a more slack dress code, others take their people to lunch at some very uppity places, so they must dress to the nines) but we also have to keep in mind what population we are serving, and to the generation of people that are our clientele jeans/piercing/flip-flops/unnatural hair color is offensive.

I sum it up with "If you look like you went to a concert, changed your oil, cleaned your house, recently woke up, or just got back from the gym, it is NOT ok to wear it"

Unfortunately sweetums, your hair is in one of those categories.

Rule #1 of employment: Dress for the job you want, not the one you have.
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#12 Post by Darkwarrior »

i highly doubt i'd be able to work efficiently while wearing full snowboarding gear meka. your rule fails.
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#13 Post by Meka »

Full snow boarding gear would fall into the "Gym" category.

My rules still win.


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Meka wrote: WTF @ My title?!?! "Cock atrice" Change please.
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#15 Post by Darkwarrior »

Meka wrote:Full snow boarding gear would fall into the "Gym" category.

My rules still win.


edit: WTF @ My title?!?! "Cock atrice" Change please.


it also counts as the job i want. your rule has flaws.
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#17 Post by Boba »

You work at tescos.


Tell the bitch she works in tescos.


Then slap her with a fucking instant barbeque and tell her to do her job and stop complaining about pointless shit.



Youve seen my hair, I get shit for having it so long all the time, but the point is that as long as you are wearing your uniform at sainsburys, there is no other dress code unless it starts becoming unsafe. Due to the area I work on, as long as the hair is out of my eyes and as far as other people can tell, I can see where Im going, there isnt shit they can do about it :D.
Does your store not have a duty/store manager? If so, take the matter up with him/her and let them know you feel youre being treated unfairly and until provided with written proof of her claims, see no reason why you should have to change your hairstyle.

(If you cant get ahold of anyone high enough up before her hair colour fades, get yourself a photo on your phone to use as evidence. Then they can see her as singling someone out and being a hipocritical piece of shit manager np.)
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#18 Post by Scorsese »

I work in the corporate office, so lucky me, I don't have to wear a suit and tie, just business casual. Slacks/Khakis, dress shoes, polo or buttoned up shirt, anything with a collar. Of course we get our 'jeans' day every so often when HR lets us. Saturdays are different, since no execs are in the office, we get to dress in jeans and tshirts.

As for your bitch of a supervisor, kick her in the twat, and tell her to go fuck herself....if she can handle it. :>
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#20 Post by Aemora »

Little update.

Today went to wkr again and started sniffing around, trying to find out more information about this. I checked the Company's Online Website (Tesco PLC) and it states NOTHING about how a person should appear, but does have a section on dress code, which states and I quote, "All Employees must present themselves in a professional manner". This is the only piece of text under any policy they have that has any iota of what the basis of this argument is about.

However, the statement is open to anyone's interpretation. The Union person who I spoke to briefly said that Fran's initial argument and point of conjecture was that my hair was of "an unnatural hair colour", which I could interpret at anything, absolutely any kind of dyed hair be an unnatural hair colour. This is to say that brunettes who dye their hair blonde would fall under this category, and others' who dye their hair an all over colour would also fall short, because technically their hair is unnatural to them and therefore is an 'unnatural hair colour'. Because Fran has signed pieces of paper confirming that her initial argument was on this basis, I have the full right to take the matter up and apply for being targetted as an individual. I agree that this stems a bit farfetched even to my standards, but because of her dealing with the matter means that I am well within my right to launch a formal complaint and have her investigated. Regardless of company policy, her reasoning for nearly suspending me are based NOT on Company policy, but on something that she made up.

But I'd need a copy of this piece of paper. And so today, with my trusty phone in hand, I take a high-quality picture of this piece of paper, secretly hunted down in the vast archives of personel management. It was like some undercover mission, but I'm out to jew this bitch over because she's singled me out.

Furthermore, I spent 30 minutes after my shift today walking around the store taking pictures of any member of staff who has dyed their hair, regardless of colour. I collected some 60 photos in total. And Tuesday morning I'm off to other stores in the area to take photos of their staff, to prove that if Fran wants to adhere to Tesco policy and use this as a reason to single me out, then why hasn't the very same policy been put into practise in many, many other stores in the area?

I've also written a letter to the main headquarters of Tesco PLC, asking them to elaborate in more detail regarding what exactly "All Employees must present themselves in a professional manner" means. I've written it so that it asks for them to be concise about everything; piercings, tattoos, dress code, footware, jewelery as well as hair colour and style, asking what exactly is suitable and what isn't. If this letter comes back stating nothing about my blue hair, then I win the case and they have absolutely nothing to say.

And Meka, I wouldn't be the guy wearing the tie to work because it's a job I do for money. Not one I enjoy, and you know that. But regardless of that, I feel targetted and am going to get Fran, and the management of the store in general, jewed, because their handling of matters enable them to play God and think that their word is gospel. And I've had enough of it. I've got a lot of support behind me from everyone in the store, and Fran knows that this has potential to be huge. My only concern is that I may be too much of a concern and they'd have to find other reasonable grounds to get rid of me...
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