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Re: Haste and Monk

Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 8:36 pm
by Knyght
Ooooooooorly, I'm still in class. Leaving in 5 minutes, then probably napping. KRT this weekend, etc.

Re: Haste and Monk

Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 8:38 pm
by Machdaddy
shurynot, anything to actually be able to sub war outside of dynamis.

Re: Haste and Monk

Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 9:09 pm
by Lolmy
wot r u guys talking about :+:, ur mnk's jus engage and punch ^^

Re: Haste and Monk

Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 9:10 pm
by Machdaddy
Let's just say there's a reason Kny and I kick ass ;o

Re: Haste and Monk

Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 9:47 pm
by Scorsese
Kny vs. SMN75's Shiva

Asuran Fist vs. Rush. HMMMMMM!!!!!!

Re: Haste and Monk

Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 4:13 pm
by Oraphin
Kny we needs to KRT. I miss those pt's. I can drag Up to WHM. And we cud get BC or something for other MNK. Jus need to whore some RDM and BRD then ^^

Re: Haste and Monk

Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 11:54 pm
by Knyght
Necrobump? Don't mind if I do.

Re: Haste and Monk

Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 12:00 am
by ItsSeflol
And how!

Re: Haste and Monk

Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 12:55 am
by Lolmy
Aemora wrote:Wot about

"Knyghtmayre misses Long-Bowed Chariot."

How many of these have you factored????????

Else, pwn. I'm still not convinced about Mnk tanking LBC though. I guess I need to be shown it in person.

TO BHAFLAU!!!



lol.

Re: Haste and Monk

Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 12:55 am
by Iticus
teehee

Re: Haste and Monk

Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 2:21 am
by sera
i'll bump your necro allrite

Re: Haste and Monk

Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 6:15 am
by Mrdude
LOL

wowo necro

Re: Haste and Monk

Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 8:31 am
by Machdaddy
Indeed, but a thread worth necroing. This should be sticked rly, it's very informative. In fact, we should have more theorycraft on this board.

Re: Haste and Monk

Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 1:11 pm
by Mrdude
While thats true, its kinda wrong now

Haste doesn't cap at 50, its somewhere in the 80'sish which nothing but a 2h zerging drk can get

You'd really only have to redo the haste, and possibly accuracy, which would also be completely different again if the monk has usu feet/full usu. On a very short (Aprox 10k damage) LBC parse, Meka came out at 72% accuracy, I have no clue what food she was eating, but basically a top of the line monk without full usukane, my accuracy as a paladin was hitting 92%, so could have possibly been a fluke, or she could of had meat on.

Assuming 15% haste, 11% Victory march and 9% Advancing, plus a mixed-monks equip, you would have:

Turban, 5%
Bblelt 12%
Haidate 5%
usukane sune-ate 2%

24% haste from gear, 35 from spells, 59% total, if you're going double march, outside of that I'm not sure about a monks average damage per hit and ws damage on LBC, and I won't use Kny's because its been a long time since then, with lots of new shit added to the game.

Then take into account Hundred fists, plus the time you'd have 2houred March/Min (or march/march if you really need it). It is also hard to calculate how much you would be casting utsusemi, because with 2 monks, it could be a one sided fight, or somewhat equal. In either case, I'd have to be a monk to know how often they have to cast blinks.

On top of that, people who've been doing salvage for years sometimes find LBC to be very odd, some nights much easier than others with and without it being weakened and such, there posts quite often about this on bg it seems, and more so lbc than other chariots. There's so many different variables it would be kind of hard to calculate something like that, because of how much the run can vary, as can stats (half the time in bhaf you may not even end up getting dex, making your accuracy that much worse).

Re: Haste and Monk

Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 3:18 pm
by Yorke
If I ever get outparsed by a Monk there is no hope for this world at all.

Re: Haste and Monk

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 9:52 pm
by Machdaddy
Spell haste caps at 50, Mrd. Melee haste caps around 70-80 (Hard to get an exact % on it, for me at least, I lax apps). I think I already mentioned that earlier in the thread tbh. It's not important, though, as its unnatainable for most jobs. The haste and damage reduc calculations are just as valid to day as they were then, since they're calculated with the same formulae.

Re: Haste and Monk

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 10:31 pm
by Mrdude
Yeah, exactly my point, you can't calculate your damage per minute on lbc using a 50% haste cap, because your haste will be higher.

keeping in mind that Haste caps at 50% total, you can figure out our damage per minute on LBC by factoring in our average damage per attack round.

Re: Haste and Monk

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 11:07 pm
by Machdaddy
Yeah, but I had already corrected that :)

Re: Haste and Monk

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 11:25 pm
by Mrdude
I see

was too lazy to read the whole thread :>

Re: Haste and Monk

Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 5:45 pm
by Aemora
Didn't you quit?

And Mnk tanking is so olde.

SO OLDE. Hell, MrD even tanks on his War from time-to-time. Better than a certain Samurai we once knew, anyway...

:whistle: