The Last of Us
- Yorke
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Re: The Last of Us
I'm glad they ended it the way they actually did really.
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- Ploid
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Re: The Last of Us
Naughty Dog expands on the original plotline and ending of The Last Of Us
Speaking to the magazine, creative director Neil Druckmann revealed that Tess had a much darker past in the initial plans for the game, though this was balanced with a more "hopeful" ending.
"What's interesting is that, originally in the story Tess took more of a villain role," Druckmann said. "Tess was betrayed by Joel and took on a mission to pursue him across the country. That storyline never worked out. The storyline shifted and Tess took on this role where she became more of a believer and she helped motivate Joel."
Apparently it was for this reason that the story was changed; the team at Naughty Dog didn't believe that Joel would take on this gargantuan task without something motivating him, like Tess sacrificing herself.
"We had a tough time understanding why Joel would take this journey - we weren't buying it," he continues. "We also had a hard time buying that Tess would go on a vendetta. We could understand her pursuing Joel a little bit, but why would she go for a year around the country? Those things were solved by saying that Tess is going to die when she gets bitten, but her dying wish to Joel is to do this one good thing - help me do this one good thing so my soul can rest because I've done all these horrible things."
This decision in turn impacted on Ellie's character. She was previously envisioned as being much more innocent, refusing to kill other humans for the majority of the game. Again though, the team soon realised that this had practical implications on gameplay.
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"Ellie's arc originally was that she didn't kill any non-infected people until the end, when she was going to kill Tess when Tess was torturing Joel," Druckmann continued. "What we realised is that we had to get Ellie engaged more in the combat because when she was disengaged from the action for that long you didn't care so much. So that changed pretty early on. We decided it wasn't going to be about the first time she killed someone, it was more about this coming of age story of the impact that the horrors of violence has on her over the course of the game.
"That culminates with her conflict with David. That happened pretty quickly, just based on some things we realised about the story and how we had to integrate it into the gameplay."
So what does this mean for the original ending? Well, the plan was for Joel and Ellie to make it to San Francisco where they'd live out the rest of their lives in peace. Unfortunately, both members of the development team and focus testers were unhappy with it as it was viewed as both anticlimactic and too definitive.
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"The original ending when we pitched the game was a much more hopeful ending, where Joel and Ellie make it to San Francisco and that is a town run by people who are trying to restore society," Druckmann continued. "Joel has killed all these doctors and lied to Ellie, and Ellie just fully buys into the lie. So, you're left with the idea that they are going to live the rest of their lives in this town. The camera pulls back and maybe everything is going to be alright for these two. I was working on writing, and it didn't feel honest anymore. After everything they've done and everything they've been through, that was letting them off a little too easy - especially for Joel.
"When we did focus testing, at least initially until some of the hospital stuff started coming together, it tested very poorly. People said it's unclear, anticlimactic, unsatisfying... A lot of people at the company felt the same way. A few designers didn't like the ending I had in mind. But then, as time passed and they thought about it, they came around and really appreciated. I think that happened with other people, too."
Speaking to the magazine, creative director Neil Druckmann revealed that Tess had a much darker past in the initial plans for the game, though this was balanced with a more "hopeful" ending.
"What's interesting is that, originally in the story Tess took more of a villain role," Druckmann said. "Tess was betrayed by Joel and took on a mission to pursue him across the country. That storyline never worked out. The storyline shifted and Tess took on this role where she became more of a believer and she helped motivate Joel."
Apparently it was for this reason that the story was changed; the team at Naughty Dog didn't believe that Joel would take on this gargantuan task without something motivating him, like Tess sacrificing herself.
"We had a tough time understanding why Joel would take this journey - we weren't buying it," he continues. "We also had a hard time buying that Tess would go on a vendetta. We could understand her pursuing Joel a little bit, but why would she go for a year around the country? Those things were solved by saying that Tess is going to die when she gets bitten, but her dying wish to Joel is to do this one good thing - help me do this one good thing so my soul can rest because I've done all these horrible things."
This decision in turn impacted on Ellie's character. She was previously envisioned as being much more innocent, refusing to kill other humans for the majority of the game. Again though, the team soon realised that this had practical implications on gameplay.
“
"Ellie's arc originally was that she didn't kill any non-infected people until the end, when she was going to kill Tess when Tess was torturing Joel," Druckmann continued. "What we realised is that we had to get Ellie engaged more in the combat because when she was disengaged from the action for that long you didn't care so much. So that changed pretty early on. We decided it wasn't going to be about the first time she killed someone, it was more about this coming of age story of the impact that the horrors of violence has on her over the course of the game.
"That culminates with her conflict with David. That happened pretty quickly, just based on some things we realised about the story and how we had to integrate it into the gameplay."
So what does this mean for the original ending? Well, the plan was for Joel and Ellie to make it to San Francisco where they'd live out the rest of their lives in peace. Unfortunately, both members of the development team and focus testers were unhappy with it as it was viewed as both anticlimactic and too definitive.
“
"The original ending when we pitched the game was a much more hopeful ending, where Joel and Ellie make it to San Francisco and that is a town run by people who are trying to restore society," Druckmann continued. "Joel has killed all these doctors and lied to Ellie, and Ellie just fully buys into the lie. So, you're left with the idea that they are going to live the rest of their lives in this town. The camera pulls back and maybe everything is going to be alright for these two. I was working on writing, and it didn't feel honest anymore. After everything they've done and everything they've been through, that was letting them off a little too easy - especially for Joel.
"When we did focus testing, at least initially until some of the hospital stuff started coming together, it tested very poorly. People said it's unclear, anticlimactic, unsatisfying... A lot of people at the company felt the same way. A few designers didn't like the ending I had in mind. But then, as time passed and they thought about it, they came around and really appreciated. I think that happened with other people, too."
- Yorke
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Re: The Last of Us
I can totally see that being the case. There's a lot of ways the ending to that game could've gone...I'm glad they settled where they did though.
Tread softly because you tread on my dreams-

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Lies are a funny thing,
they slip through your fingertips because
they never happened to you.
- Yorke
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Re: The Last of Us
Oh god I can only imagine how badass it would be if this was a mod option.
Tread softly because you tread on my dreams-

Lies are a funny thing,
they slip through your fingertips because
they never happened to you.

Lies are a funny thing,
they slip through your fingertips because
they never happened to you.
Re: The Last of Us
So yeah, I was an idiot and posted in Diablo 3.
DLC finished, super short 1 hour, etc.
DLC finished, super short 1 hour, etc.


- Yorke
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Re: The Last of Us
Was it good?
Tread softly because you tread on my dreams-

Lies are a funny thing,
they slip through your fingertips because
they never happened to you.

Lies are a funny thing,
they slip through your fingertips because
they never happened to you.
Re: The Last of Us
I don't know, it really is too damned short to say anything about it. It did give a little bit more backstory to Ellie, as well as one rather surprising revelation about her. Outside of the story bits, you play as Ellie during that time in Winter where she was looking after Joel. You sneak around a mall full of infected and hunters.


- Ploid
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Re: The Last of Us
Well not buying and playing much of this game paid off.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXyTSmovCCg
TLoU on PS4 1080p maybe 60fps, remastered. Looks like a water painting almost.
vid of the game part.
http://a.pomf.se/xsezie.webm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXyTSmovCCg
TLoU on PS4 1080p maybe 60fps, remastered. Looks like a water painting almost.
vid of the game part.
http://a.pomf.se/xsezie.webm
- Yorke
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Re: The Last of Us
Saw this! Wish I'd waited to buy it for PS4, can't imagine it can get much prettier than the PS3 version really though.
Tread softly because you tread on my dreams-

Lies are a funny thing,
they slip through your fingertips because
they never happened to you.

Lies are a funny thing,
they slip through your fingertips because
they never happened to you.
Re: The Last of Us
Ima buy it again. And play it again. Been looking for a reason to play it another time.

