she's not bad but you're gonna get the herp

I had a nightmare last night. Dreamed that I did 75% of the requirements to get Sam Dynamis relic but instead of farming it was a stupid hard fight. Right after I felt doomed to playing ffxi forever, and obligated to pay back all of the debt. I couldn't even see myself finishing it and I was seemingly at the point of no return. So glad I woke up, I kept thinking why did I do this?

you really miss us

Just killed Pandemonium Warden, fight was fun :O

Wow, so it seems like AV and PW are chumps now. Good to hear. Not to discredit your accomplishments just as a measure of their old selves. Fun fight wouldn't be used to describe the old PW fight.

FF12 Yiazmat takes something like 4 hours, am leveling to get myself prepared for it. Same with clearing monster arenas in FFX, basically just going back through the toughest fights in all the games. I know this has been said before but FF11 made me play other games differently. Haste, slow, protect, shell, etc. I used hack+slash (still do for the most part for convenience sake) and healing primarily until I played it.

I remember the PW fight used to take like 8 hours or something? How long did it take you guys?

I remember killing yiazmat in like .. not a long time because I had done everything possible in 12. Thinking about replaying that game lately.
But I agree, before 11 I always just mashed attack. After 11 I'd always buff up.

Part of the problem is that for FF12 it isn't super easy to level more than a few characters at a time. So far I have 3 chars at 80+, two at 17 and one at 8. I can always PL two of em once I have them completely overpowered so that rocks, don't imagine it takes that long.

FFX allows you to swap people in all the time so you can use one action to get them XP for the fight, love that part. My chars are getting souped up for that game right now, only have 3 of the legendary weapons which are an absolute bitch to get tho ;[

I always said fuck the lightning related weapon. Had them all but that one. It really isn't worth anyone's time to do that.

I actually do remember getting that one before. Some dude I knew at college had a PERFECT game file. Every sphere accessed by everyone, everyone with best weaps, perfect armor, etc. Hitting for 99999 every time with everyone with regular attacks and magic. Insanity.

I'm not sure if that's awesome or sad.
I do agree though that 12 sucked for leveling. In 10 I always just subbed everyone on and out every battle.

it's awesome and sad

Yorke wrote:FF12 Yiazmat takes something like 4 hours, am leveling to get myself prepared for it. Same with clearing monster arenas in FFX, basically just going back through the toughest fights in all the games. I know this has been said before but FF11 made me play other games differently. Haste, slow, protect, shell, etc. I used hack+slash (still do for the most part for convenience sake) and healing primarily until I played it.

I remember the PW fight used to take like 8 hours or something? How long did it take you guys?

Save her man, haha, I remember fighting Cerb on FF8 or something and using protect once on that fight then never using it again. Never cared for it until ff11. In ff12 I used shell and protect all the time. Also i didnt use haste in ff's until 11.

Edit:
I remember doing the lightning dodges. I was determined to get that thing once for that weapon (I think Lulu's). I would take a break at that Inn often. I did it once and I'll never do it again.

Ploid wrote:Wow, so it seems like AV and PW are chumps now. Good to hear. Not to discredit your accomplishments just as a measure of their old selves. Fun fight wouldn't be used to describe the old PW fight.

Like you said, they're much easier now. Mainly because SE nerfed the difficulty. I think there's 5 less forms than originally plus the cap being 20 levels higher and equipment being better makes it easy.

The adds can still be a problem though. When they pop hate is weird, I pulled had using Release (on Smn) at one point even though they were already on someone. The final form is still a pain as well and can kill people even through Perfect Defense (8x Astral Flow at once adds up, even when the damage is reduced).

Fight was fun because it was something new and different from every other fight I've done. We still have 2 more pops to do this week as well.

Yorke wrote:I remember the PW fight used to take like 8 hours or something? How long did it take you guys?

Rukenshen's LS took 18 hours the first time they tried, and they still lost. Took us about 45 mins I think? It despawns after 2 hours.

Ploid wrote:Edit:
I remember doing the lightning dodges. I was determined to get that thing once for that weapon (I think Lulu's). I would take a break at that Inn often. I did it once and I'll never do it again.

I think it's best to just keep doing it to keep your timing going.

I wanna do pw :/ what do you guys do, tank party and a bunch of summoners and blms? Anything other than smn is pretty limited damage wise now I find, because of the hate cap.

Went rng to a voidwatch run I was late to (I'm the main pld) and I pulled hate and died after a while, then sync blitz was proced, so I solod light with jishnu and pulled hate with just that, and this was 3/4ths of the way through the fight, if api and our other pld didn't cap hate by then...

I think I might finish smn, job is insane now. 3-4 smns can pretty much kill anything.

From what I remember we had:

Tank Party
Pld (Has Aegis and Ochain, tanked PW)
Pld (Has Aegis, pulled adds)

2x DD Party
2-3 Blms I think
2 Smns (mainly for Perfect Defense for final form; I also helped cure when Whm had low mp)
0 Rng
DDs were a mix of jobs (Mnk, Drg, War that I remember)


Main tank holds PW, designated people/person pulls the Lamps and DDs kill them one by one. They die pretty fast. Hate cap wasn't really an issue due to everything dying pretty fast. Only problem was the random hate when the Lamps spawned.

I actually dinged 95 smn a few days ago. The job is lol. I just solo'd Teekesselchen in Abyssea - Grauberg. My gear is still ass, I have two pieces of AF3+1 but I seem to be able to solo anything as long as I have room to kite. Think I'm gonna go solo Glavoid sometime, as well. If I can pull that off, I can solo my Ukonvasara.

Machdaddy wrote:I actually dinged 95 smn a few days ago. The job is lol. I just solo'd Teekesselchen in Abyssea - Grauberg. My gear is still ass, I have two pieces of AF3+1 but I seem to be able to solo anything as long as I have room to kite. Think I'm gonna go solo Glavoid sometime, as well. If I can pull that off, I can solo my Ukonvasara.

good thing they added multiple ???'s for the nm's