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Re: New Equipment! (19/02/2008)

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 6:50 pm
by Lolmy
ya the last 2 updates SAM got were soooooooooooooo great, amirite

Re: New Equipment! (19/02/2008)

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 7:22 pm
by Nieryo
least SE pays attention to sam ;-;

Re: New Equipment! (19/02/2008)

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 7:41 pm
by Darkwarrior
for the dalmy/mrobe debate:

shit's situational. for blm yeah it's clear mrobe beats dalmy hands down, but for rdm dalmy has some nice stats too (more mp, magic def+5, resist para).

Re: New Equipment! (19/02/2008)

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 8:56 pm
by Asta
These are obviously the Nyzul weapon upgrades.

Re: New Equipment! (19/02/2008)

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 11:12 pm
by Ploid
OMG OMG OMG Ultima Weapon!!
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Edit: Oh wait, I can't trick you guys. Ultima is already in ffxi :\ Show's that I don't follow the story in this game. /sigh
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Re: New Equipment! (19/02/2008)

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 12:39 am
by Aemora
I'm on about Abjurations, fag. And whilst some NMs may be 5% drop rate, there's still the problem of claiming stuff to begin with.

Image vs Image

Dalmy has 50MP and MDB+5.
Robe has MND+8 and MAB+5.

Re: New Equipment! (19/02/2008)

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 1:01 am
by Lolmy
Why would a RDM need MAB+5, and if they want to use an INT body piece instead of AF+1 body, they could use Mahatma body for +3 more INT, "fag" :whistle:

Re: New Equipment! (19/02/2008)

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 1:14 am
by Aemora
I never raised the question of INT.

But if you really wanna look at the stats which truly only benefit the curative nature of a Rdm at most Alliances:

50MP vs MND+8

I never once mentioned the Accuracy or Attack or Strength or INT that a Robe offers compared to the Resists Paralyze that a Dalmy offers. Why? Because it's fucking redundant, like MDB and MAB at the end of the day. And what? We comparing 3 INT to 5 MAB? This has already been proven with Genie vs Robe, 8 INT is greater than 2 MAB, so how the fuck can 3 INT compare to 5 MAB? Even on lesser nukes with T3, 5 MAB will still outweight 3 INT.

To put this into simpler terms, would you prefer Zenith Pumps or Morrigan's Pigaches? This is the arguement I'm putting forward, nothing to do with INT or Resist Paralyze or anything else I'm putting on the table.

Btw, Image vs Image.

Same thing, which would you prefer, more MP or more MND?

Re: New Equipment! (19/02/2008)

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 1:27 am
by Lolmy
I meant MND, but the argument works for INT too, since I was talking about enfeebling not fucking nuking. Why would a RDM be nuking?

If for some reason a RDM wanted to use MND (FOR A MND BASED ENFEEBLE) or INT (FOR AN INT BASED ONE), instead of using AF+1 body, then they would still use Mahatma Body for +3 MND (OR INT LOL See: Above post)

I even referred above to AF+1 body for RDM, you should've known I was talking about enfeebles not pitiful RDM nukes. :nonono:

Re: New Equipment! (19/02/2008)

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 1:35 am
by Asta
OK, since you are talking about old gear, and mage get at that, there is something I need to know.

Why are these not the most amazing hands ever!?

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I am rather new at leveling mage jobs and just got these. I can tell you that if there were gloves for THF that gave +15 dagger skill, absolutely nothing else in the game would even come close.

Re: New Equipment! (19/02/2008)

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 1:43 am
by Lolmy
'Cause elemental magic doesn't help much once you get merits/high level gear and starts giving diminishing returns. Those gloves would basically not help at all on your average exp, dynamis, limbus, assault mob. Also your INT vs. the mobs INT is a lot more important, this is why BLM AF2 hat imo is really overrated. On reallyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy high level mobs of course you would still use these hands, but only because there isn't an alternative with a decent amount of INT to compare

Re: New Equipment! (19/02/2008)

Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 9:55 pm
by Safersephx
also asta, melee skills differ than magic skills in that with melee skills, you're gaining accuracy and attack, with elemental and enfeebling magic, you only gain accuracy

Re: New Equipment! (19/02/2008)

Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 2:05 pm
by Watkins
Where the fuck is the pup gear at? :nonono:

Re: New Equipment! (19/02/2008)

Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 11:33 pm
by Safersephx
pup has gotten new gear / attachments / random stuff added every update since toa was released

Re: New Equipment! (19/02/2008)

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 12:00 am
by Knyght
RDMs shouldn't use MAB for nuking. Their INT isn't high enough to take full advantage. If a RDM had full INT merits and subbed BLM then that RDM could probably mix MAB+INT gear. Generally I'd just tell a RDM to go full INT and Elemental skill because they also lack in that. Dalmy is beyond a pointless piece of equipment at this stage of the game, I thought people would've realized that about a year ago.

There, I summed up the entire debate.

Re: New Equipment! (19/02/2008)

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 3:19 am
by Watkins
Safersephx wrote:pup has gotten new gear / attachments / random stuff added every update since toa was released


Nothing good though. :fear: